Photometry test - average stack with maxim DL

Affiliation
American Association of Variable Star Observers (AAVSO)
Tue, 10/20/2015 - 20:48

After reading many different opinions about average stacking in photometry, I have decided to do a test with Maxim DL to undesrstand if the average stack feature offered by the software is a viable option to effectively increase the SNR of stars without detroying the data. I think it can be of interest to post the results. The method that I have used is to do single image photometry using a time series, then calculate the fluxes, then average three fluxes at a time and then got the averaged magnitudes. After that I have used the average stack of Maxim DL to stack the images in groups of three and then compared the resulting magnitudes with the ones gotten with the above-mentioned method. Here are the results:

Time (JD)
Mag
Flux
Average Flux
Average mag
Average stack Maxim DL (3 images)
Delta Mag.

2457242,41222222
-0,0881
1,0845260797
 
 
 
 

2457242,4137037
-0,0748
1,0713219423
 
 
 
 

2457242,41518519
-0,0777
1,0741872667
1,0766784296
-0,0802
-0,0800
-0,0002

2457242,41666667
-0,0839
1,0803388649
 
 
 
 

2457242,41814815
-0,078
1,0744841166
 
 
 
 

2457242,41962963
-0,078
1,0744841166
1,0764356994
-0,0800
-0,0802
0,0002

2457242,42111111
-0,0801
1,0765643643
 
 
 
 

2457242,42259259
-0,0836
1,0800403975
 
 
 
 

2457242,42407407
-0,0798
1,0762669397
1,0776239005
-0,0812
-0,0813
0,0001

2457242,42555556
-0,0801
1,0765643643
 
 
 
 

2457242,42703704
-0,0805
1,0769610583
 
 
 
 

2457242,42851852
-0,0816
1,0780527208
1,0771927145
-0,0807
-0,0805
-0,0002

2457242,43
-0,0793
1,0757714145
 
 
 
 

2457242,43148148
-0,079
1,075474209
 
 
 
 

2457242,43295139
-0,0917
1,0881280355
1,0797912197
-0,0833
-0,0837
0,0004

2457242,43444444
-0,0785
1,0749790488
 
 
 
 

2457242,43592593
-0,0834
1,079841465
 
 
 
 

2457242,43740741
-0,0872
1,0836274553
1,0794826564
-0,0830
-0,0826
-0,0004

2457242,43888889
-0,0882
1,0846259729
 
 
 
 

2457242,44037037
-0,0853
1,0817328038
 
 
 
 

2457242,44185185
-0,0765
1,0730006869
1,0797864879
-0,0833
-0,0829
-0,0004

2457242,44333333
-0,0759
1,0724078887
 
 
 
 

2457242,44481481
-0,0856
1,0820317389
 
 
 
 

2457242,4462963
-0,0917
1,0881280355
1,0808558877
-0,0844
-0,0847
0,0003

2457242,44777778
-0,0896
1,0860254433
 
 
 
 

2457242,44925926
-0,0824
1,0788473521
 
 
 
 

2457242,45074074
-0,0878
1,0842264555
1,0830330837
-0,0866
-0,0870
0,0004

2457242,45222222
-0,0801
1,0765643643
 
 
 
 

2457242,4537037
-0,0772
1,0736926991
 
 
 
 

2457242,45518518
-0,0936
1,0900338882
1,0800969839
-0,0837
-0,0837
0,0000

2457242,45665509
-0,0858
1,0822310749
 
 
 
 

2457242,45813657
-0,0918
1,0882282604
 
 
 
 

2457242,45962963
-0,0856
1,0820317389
1,0841636914
-0,0877
-0,0882
0,0005

2457242,46111111
-0,088
1,0844261958
 
 
 
 

2457242,46259259
-0,0877
1,0841265991
 
 
 
 

2457242,46407407
-0,0837
1,0801398775
1,0828975575
-0,0865
-0,0869
0,0004

2457242,46555556
-0,0785
1,0749790488
 
 
 
 

2457242,46703704
-0,0809
1,0773578986
 
 
 
 

2457242,46851852
-0,0921
1,0885289906
1,080288646
-0,0838
-0,0844
0,0006

2457242,47
-0,0762
1,0727042468
 
 
 
 

2457242,47148148
-0,0893
1,0857254049
 
 
 
 

2457242,47297454
-0,0839
1,0803388649
1,0795895055
-0,0831
-0,0830
-0,0001

2457242,47445602
-0,0873
1,0837272657
 
 
 
 

2457242,4759375
-0,0831
1,079543135
 
 
 
 

2457242,47741898
-0,0918
1,0882282604
1,083832887
-0,0874
-0,0873
-0,0001

2457242,47890046
-0,0872
1,0836274553
 
 
 
 

2457242,48038194
-0,0894
1,0858254085
 
 
 
 

2457242,481875
-0,0849
1,0813343521
1,0835957386
-0,0872
-0,0870
-0,0002

2457242,48334491
-0,0884
1,0848257867
 
 
 
 

2457242,48483796
-0,0904
1,0868259513
 
 
 
 

2457242,48631944
-0,0894
1,0858254085
1,0858257155
-0,0894
-0,0897
0,0003

2457242,48780093
-0,0871
1,0835276541
 
 
 
 

2457242,48928241
-0,091
1,0874267195
 
 
 
 

2457242,49076389
-0,0904
1,0868259513
1,085926775
-0,0895
-0,0893
-0,0002

2457242,49224537
-0,0886
1,0850256374
 
 
 
 

2457242,49372685
-0,0847
1,0811351813
 
 
 
 

2457242,49520833
-0,0965
1,0929492591
1,086370026
-0,0899
-0,0901
0,0002

2457242,49668981
-0,095
1,0914403364
 
 
 
 

2457242,4981713
-0,0915
1,0879276134
 
 
 
 

2457242,49965278
-0,0989
1,0953678756
1,0915786085
-0,0951
-0,0954
0,0003

2457242,50114583
-0,0921
1,0885289906
 
 
 
 

2457242,50261574
-0,0994
1,0958724273
 
 
 
 

2457242,50409722
-0,094
1,0904355455
1,0916123211
-0,0952
-0,0953
0,0001

2457242,50559028
-0,0949
1,0913398157
 
 
 
 

2457242,50707176
-0,1013
1,0977918443
 
 
 
 

2457242,50855324
-0,0982
1,0946618934
1,0945978511
-0,0981
-0,0986
0,0005

2457242,51003472
-0,0935
1,089933497
 
 
 
 

2457242,5115162
-0,0982
1,0946618934
 
 
 
 

2457242,51300926
-0,1013
1,0977918443
1,0941290782
-0,0977
-0,0977
0,0000

2457242,51449074
-0,0975
1,0939563663
 
 
 
 

2457242,51597222
-0,0977
1,094157899
 
 
 
 

2457242,5174537
-0,0881
1,0845260797
1,090880115
-0,0944
-0,0949
0,0005

2457242,51893518
-0,1061
1,1026558858
 
 
 
 

2457242,52041667
-0,0989
1,0953678756
 
 
 
 

2457242,52107639
-0,0972
1,0936541367
1,097225966
-0,1007
-0,1003
-0,0004

2457242,52255787
-0,1019
1,0983986741
 
 
 
 

2457242,52403935
-0,0972
1,0936541367
 
 
 
 

2457242,52552083
-0,1017
1,0981963603
1,0967497237
-0,1003
-0,1002
-0,0001

2457242,52699074
-0,1045
1,1010321487
 
 
 
 

2457242,5284838
-0,1007
1,0971853497
 
 
 
 

2457242,5299537
-0,0979
1,0943594689
1,0975256558
-0,1010
-0,1016
0,0006

2457242,53144676
-0,1027
1,0992083024
 
 
 
 

2457242,53291667
-0,0988
1,0952669931
 
 
 
 

2457242,53439815
-0,1
1,0964781961
1,0969844972
-0,1005
-0,1008
0,0003

2457242,5358912
-0,1022
1,0987022148
 
 
 
 

2457242,53738426
-0,101
1,0974885551
 
 
 
 

2457242,53886574
-0,1033
1,0998159153
1,0986688951
-0,1022
-0,1024
0,0002

2457242,54034722
-0,0942
1,0906364297
 
 
 
 

2457242,5418287
-0,0969
1,0933519907
 
 
 
 

2457242,54331018
-0,1055
1,102046704
1,0953450414
-0,0989
-0,0993
0,0004

The above-mentioned time series was done as a simple ensemble differential photometry, clear filter.

I think I can conclude that the average stack feature of Maxim DL is actually an excellent way to increase the SNR of stars without altering the data as the measures differences are in the order of a few tenths of millimag.

Gianluca (RGN)

 

 

Affiliation
American Association of Variable Star Observers (AAVSO)
SNR Improvement?

Hi Gianluca:

As I would have expected/hoped the stacked (3) magnitude, and the average of three individual magnitudes were the same.

Was the stacked SNR an improvement over the individual SNR and by how much?

Ken

Affiliation
American Association of Variable Star Observers (AAVSO)
SNR Improvement

Hi Ken,

the SNR improvement of the 3 stracked images was around 1.7 times better than the single ones as I would expect. The method I have followed was recommended by a professional astronomer who wanted to learn how the software handels the fluxes. Anyway I think it is good to learn that automatic average stacking does not alter the magnitudes you could get by averaging manually.

Gianluca

Affiliation
American Association of Variable Star Observers (AAVSO)
SNR

Gianluca:

Good to hear the SNR improved by sqrt n. I asked because in many of my own tests, the SNR often does not improve by the level expected but quite a bit less due to significant noise.

Ken

Affiliation
American Association of Variable Star Observers (AAVSO)
Average Stacking in Maxim DL

Gianluca, 

Is there an option in maxim to shift by whole pixels only so the star profile and background are not redistributed among pixels from bicubic or bi-linear resampling in the shifting operation. Full pixel shifting increases the FWHM somewhat but it doesn't redistribute the background. In the program I use you accomplish this by using shifting only for the transformation and Nearest Neighbor for the resampling process:

"Nearest Neighbor: Uses the pixel nearest to the transformed coordinate instead of re-sampling the pixel values. This inflates the FWHM by about 0.3 pixels but preserves the noise structure of the image, which is usually important when Aperture Photometry will be done on the registered images."

The result is that images are only shifted and are shifted only by whole pixel amounts during the alignment process. 

Brad Walter, WBY