I have recently run into trying to determine if two observers with time-series observations plotted on the LCG have an offset to each other and would like to see overlapping data from each observer individually identified, since sometimes data is several observers deep. Currently, you can only ID one observer for display - two (or more) would be so useful for a quick-look comparison.
Can this be done?
Rick
Hi Rick
I don't know if it's possible, but I would download the data as csv files and import into EXCEL and graph from there.
Stephen [HSP]
Hi Rick,
The current LCG does not have the ability to identify two different observers simultaneously. I agree that this would be a neat function, and perhaps if there is a call for new features when the LCG is updated, you could add this to the queue.
You can quickly identify one observer after another without redrawing a plot if you use the Zapper tool:
https://www.aavso.org/zapper
(and at the same time, help staff identify discrepant points!). Otherwise, I'm not sure how it could be done with existing AAVSO tools. You can certainly do one observer after another with LCG, keeping the scaling the same, and maybe find some off-line way of overlaying the two plots. Perhaps someone with more experience can step forward!
Arne
Rick,
You should be able to accomplish this with VStar.
Barbara
Indeed, further to Barbara's reply, one approach with VStar would be a pattern search in the observation list pane of the form: obscode1|obscode2
Please let us know if you need help.
David
Hi David,
I knew about the pattern search, but I thought that would just highlight both observers, not give one observer one color and another observer a different color so that you could see how they overlap. Perhaps you can give an example of how to do this? That is why I was leaning towards more complex methods.
Arne
Hi Arne
Understood. It's probably not commonly used yet.
The procedure is this, using R Car as an example:
Ideally it would be nice to cut out the series creation step and just add the ability to display two filters directly at once. You can of course, via the Previous Filters dialog, switch between two filters at will. Note that in this example, you could just create the two selection filters, create a series for one arbitrarily, then show that and the other filter via checkbox selections in the plot control dialog.
David
Thanks, all, for the guidance. It seems quite complicated in VStar, but I'll try it, since the data remains nicely formatted for use with better tools. Excel seems easier and faster for a "quick-look", though.
(Hey - to a guy that still writes code in Basic, adding a second plotted observer is only a "3-line change", huh?!
;-) rick
..yup,
Some of us are still kicking around that were use to it being spelled: BASIC. I think it took 10 lines back then, LOL.
-- Glenn
Hi Glenn, Rick
BASIC was 50 last year. It has a special place in my heart too. I wrote a BASIC compiler for the Amiga in the 90s.
You may enjoy my BASIC 50th anniversary (last year) reminiscences article:
https://dbenn.wordpress.com/2014/05/04/basics-50th-early-micros-and-ace-basic-for-the-amiga/
David
Thanks, David. I still love BASIC and use it regularly when I need to do something quick and dirty, especially for work. Still pretty handy.
Hi Rick
Instead of the pattern search steps, you can use Sara Beck's Observer List Filter, but overall the number of steps is not really reduced.
I've created a ticket to address this in a future release:
https://sourceforge.net/p/vstar/bugs-and-features/507/
David