Maxim DL - Recalculation of reference star magnitude

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American Association of Variable Star Observers (AAVSO)
Mon, 03/29/2021 - 21:22

When I carry out a photometry measurement using MAxim DL I select the target object and a number of reference stars. I have to enter the catalogue magnitude of each reference star. Maxim DL outputs the instrumental and calculated magnitude of the object star. But it also outputs the instrumental and calculated magnitude of all the reference stars.  The catalogue magnitudes of the reference stars are used to calculate the magnitude of the target star. I understand how that is done. But I can't see how or why it would calculate the magnitude of the reference stars. The figures are generally close to the catalogue values.

I've asked this question on diffraction limited's forum but haven't had a useful reply yet. I asked the question 'how is the magnitude of the reference stars calculated?" and was told "The same way as it calculates the magnitude of the target star". But that doesn't make sense. - Chicken and egg problem.

 

Affiliation
American Association of Variable Star Observers (AAVSO)
Magnitude

Maybe this will help

 

https://cdn.diffractionlimited.com/help/maximdl/Photometry_Calculations.htm

Affiliation
American Association of Variable Star Observers (AAVSO)
Thanks, I have read that. My…

Thanks, I have read that. My problem is this. It says -

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If I is the intensity of an object in an image, and t is the exposure time of that image, then

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Let Image removed., where

Image removed. is the instrumental magnitude of reference star Image removed., and
Image removed. is the catalog magnitude of Image removed.

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But it's talking about the calculation for the target star which is fine. But I don't see how you can apply it to a reference star. If you do, then in that case v is the instrumental magnitude of the reference star. But in the second equation it says ri is the instrumental magnitude of the reference star which we just calculated anyway. So that means v is the same as ri and the second equation simply becomes Vi = Rcat.

 

Affiliation
American Association of Variable Star Observers (AAVSO)
So I guess it takes out the…

So I guess it takes out the original object star, makes the reference star the target star and then uses the remaining reference stars to calculate a magnitude for the new target star.

The calculation is a bit more involved than I said. Because you can have multiple reference stars it works out a magnitude for the target star relative to the first reference star. So that would be V1. If there are say 4 reference stars you end up with V1, V2, V3 and V4. Then it works out a weighted average of those magnitudes to get the final magnitude of the target star. The weighting is based on the SNR of each reference star.

I can see how that might work for calculating the magnitude of a reference star if you measure each reference star against each of the other reference stars and do the same weighted average for each one but I'm not sure what the point is.  Also I suppose it would be possible to use the calculated magnitude of the target star in the calculation for each reference star. So the target star swaps places with the relevant target star in the calculation.